I ain’t much for popular opinion.
I can’t remember the last time I fully trusted the tally of a widely held opinion. This isn’t a contrarian gallivant, myopic bent or some degenerative condition that rhymes with Larry King. Nah, it’s just the truth in my lovely bones. A truth that cannot shut up, even when it really . . really should.
Every now and then, I say something that perturbs the proclivities of a heretofore popular vote gone final. Like . . for instance, when I suggest that I ain’t down with the idea that Forrest Gump is a great movie.
I discussed this opinion with a friend of mine recently, and the results . . they were predictable. And shit! If it ain’t safer to stand in the middle of Pyongang and call Kim Jong Un a cocksucker than it is to suggest that Forrest Gump isn’t the greatest story ever told. Because her response was uglier than a Charles Manson welcoming committee. More inhospitable than Elton John after a bad spa day. It was meaner than a shit faced Bethany Frankel, a sober Tucker Carlson . . more hell bent than Trump in a KFC drive-thru whilst waiting on a big vote.
So if you have a problem with it, you ain’t telling me anything I ain’t heard already. But please notice I make a point to say Gump ain’t great, I’m not saying it’s not good. Maybe even really good. Not that it matters to Gump Nation.
The IMDB 100 Greatest Movies of All Time lists Forrest Gump at Number 16 . . . of all time. Take it for what it’s worth, considering they put Gladiator at 34- a flick which is basically the cinematic equivalent of a bacon cheeseburger; easy to love, but not to be mistaken with a filet mignon. The American Film Institute is a tad more realistic in their top 100 ranking, listing Gump at 71.
There is alchemy to ranking systems, in that they are able to transform the factual into something much sexier than that. Forrest Gump happened into the right time and the right place. America was in a funky place in 1994, having hired a President it wasn’t fully sold on to make good on a Kennedy myth that we knew was never present. We were struggling through a racial divide that was only getting more complicated with the arrest of O.J. Simpson. Terrorists had bombed the Trade Center the year before and taken down the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City only months earlier.
Forrest Gump was a simple piece of American pie served to the hungry masses. The first weekend’s box office bite quenched a hunger, after which the film’s producers upped the marketing ante and every other fucking commercial and movie ad was Forrest Fucking Gump . . and I know because I was there. Sooooo . . . good became something else entirely, in an Andy Warhol manner of artful speak. You can win a pot with an okay hand but it requires selling the table, and man . . did they sell the table. After which it had everything movie goers pined for. It offered big names, a popular director, simple dialogue, kitschy catchphrases, paint by the numbers history lessons and a killer soundtrack. It was a political movie that wasn’t political, and who doesn’t love that?
My top 5 reasons why Forrest Gump Love bugs the shit out of me? Sure . . .
5- Too Much Information- You know those restaurants where the menu is a novel, featuring everything from chicken pot pie to paella so you always end up ordering an omelette or a burger? Yep, that’s Forrest Gump. It’s too much, without really being enough of anything.
4- People Love The Every Man- In movies. Everybody loves Forrest Gump when he’s a fictional character. But in real life . . ain’t nobody showing a dude with a crew cut and an IQ of 75 much love. Especially not Robin Wright.
3- Peeps Even Get The Lines Wrong– People are always plugging Gump lines into every day conversations, but when pressed for the best of ’em . . they can’t get it right. It ain’t “a box of chocolates” or “stupid is as stupid does” or even “run Forrest run!”. It’s “sometimes, there just aren’t enough rocks”. And it’s not even close!
2- Musical Seduction- The soundtrack seduced those peeps who were on the fence into going along with those peeps who were head over heels for the movie. Because really . . you can close your eyes and just listen.
1- Tom Hanks Did A Job . . But . . Just That– Never mind that, because back in the day, he was the silver screen’s sultan. There’s a reason why Hollywood has an A-list. Those peeps bat four in the lineup and yes . . they are expected to clean up. Hanks did his job . . but that doesn’t mean this was a great job!
It’s funny, because when I had this ‘disagreement’ with my otherwise agreeable pal, she had to pull the Fargo card on me. As in “You love Fargo . . so what do you know?”. And it’s funny because she was trashing my opinion in order to make hers. Which isn’t the same thing . . at all. I mean . . I didn’t trash her sports teams or her choice in a husband (who happens to be a Red Sox fan), and I didn’t even trash her love for the sitcom Roseanne, which is a show whose popularity I will never understand.
Oops.
Marco,
Why is it so hard to go against the masses? You should feel validated by an article I read on FB listing movies that everyone loves but don’t deserve it. Yep. The Gumpster is on that list.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but not an Oscar-winning film? There are scads out there that have won – and I’m still scratching my head at why?
Why do we love Zombieland and others look at us like we’ve lost our minds?
How can I- gasp! – loathe “Anna Karenina or For Whom the Bell Tolls
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Q,
You bring up an interesting point. There is a certain reprisal that we (anyone who veers off the status quo in the slightest) get when we tell the truth about a pop culture staple that is adored. Because peeps ‘appreciate our differences’ except when those differences ain’t theirs, lol.
Like, my take is simple with zero intention to demean or degrade. And yet . . . all I gotta say is Gump ain’t great and nine times outta ten, someone is gonna want to fistfight me.
I get the Fargo backlash quite often, if someone knows my favorite flicks. Which isn’t the same as giving me a point for point on their fave.
And “For Whom the Bell Tolls”? I would have to agree!
Peace and Bubba
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B,
Ain’t that the truth. We may each have our own opinion,as long as yours is aligned with mine. What a dull world that would make.
And your truth doesn’t have to be the universal truth, either. To you, Gump ain’t great; to others,it has deep meaning.
Ah Fargo… it’s a love/hate thing 😉 and no, attacking your taste is not making theirs any better.
Of course you do!
Fried shrimp, boiled shrimp, grilled shrimp…
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I didn’t bring up the time I chatted with Tom Hanks about baseball cards for a couple minutes because I felt that peeps would think I had something against the dude, when nothing could be further from the truth. He’s a chill dude!
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I’d never believe otherwise. He just oozes nice guy
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My convo would’ve negated the point I was trying to make tho . . .
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There is that.
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And Rita Wilson, she was a doll.
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I don’t doubt that either 😉
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Tom Hanks is chill. You need to listen to this:
https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/sooo-many-white-guys-tom-hanks
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I could see Hanks getting down with some Coltrane, definitely. When I met him, he was in disguise with a baseball cap. I never let on even though I was saying to myself “I’m talking to Tom Fucking Hanks!”
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I still can’t get over Bubba Gump’s restaurant.
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I cannot lie… We had quite a good time both times we went… just sayin’!
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I’m not sure if it’s still there, but it had prime real estate at Navy Pier on the lakefront in Chicago. It was ok. And guess what the shrimp was not from the Gulf! I know I’m a snob.
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I went in Daytona, Florida and… not sure if it was New Jersey. Of course the shrimp wasn’t from the Gulf… Whatsamatter with you 😉 WEll… *maybe* the Florida ones were…
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Call me crazy but, the whole concept was about Gulf Shrimp!
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Silly woman… 😉
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I think that was the only reason for the movie!
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I heard it was Hoboken . . .
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I loved Navy Pier! I haven’t been there since I dined at Dick’s Last Resort, which is going back a ways!
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Yeah, my kids liked it. They went there with my ex and brought me back a key chain. Which I used . . no hard feelings!
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We still have the light up glasses…😎😉
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Light up glasses? Hmmm . . .
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I’ll send ya a pic 😁
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Boom! All thanks to a simple man named Forrest.
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😁
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I had a key chain from that place!
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Crap! That’s what I get for commenting on my phone at 6 am! Here’s the last part of my rant on your rant.
…Tolls” – please throw yourself in front of the train, Anna, and blow up the goddamn bridge already, Robert! I’m past caring about either of you…
Apparently, these are “classics, how dare I does them…
So g’head, B, voice your opinion – but choose level-headed people to share them with 😉
Peace, chocolates and Bubba Gump Shrimp,
Dale xx
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That’s the thing, the most level headed of peeps gets downright ornery when you bring up Gump in a less than glowing way.
I’ve not seen Anna, but now I think Imma pass.
I had to break the semi-awkward “WTF?” vibe of my tiff over Gump by saying the movie failed to save Emilio Estevez’s career. It took a few moments before the “bwahahaha!” but then I simply moved on. . .
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Peeps het ornery over the stupidest things.
Just read a book where one of the characters thinks Anna is the best thing ever and the answer to many of life’s questions. Blech.
Buahahaha! Took me a second there!
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They DO!
I mean, I get ornery and cranky my damn self, but at least I have a gear to which I will downshift and be like “Coo”. I can step away from the proverbial cannoli . .
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They certainly DO!
You do? No way… glad to know you can downshift and step away… 😉
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I love my cranky side actually. It’s quite entertaining.
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Why am I not surprised? I told you my eldest was saying he couldn’t wait to be an old man coz he was planning on being a cranky old bastard.
Then recently he pissed me off by saying he changed his mind and wants to die young. I almost killed him then and there.
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I AM the cranky old bastard at work lots of times. Calling my co-workers “kids”, snickering at the latest catchphrases and making light of video games just because they aren’t my standard classics, lol.
WHAT?! No . . dying young ain’t nothing to josh about . . .
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I’m with you on the co-worker thing.
And no. 😦 Definitely nothing to josh bout. I loathe it when he does that.
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Some of the kids don’t like being called “kids”, which I find humorous. I mean, I LOVE it when someone calls me a kid! Which ain’t happening much anymore. Perspective I guess . . .
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Indeed 😉 I have no problem with being told I’m just a kid 😉
I once told this 6’4″ operator that I worked with that he “still smelled of pipi” because he’s so young. His boss was rolling on the floor laughing. Him? Not so much… 😀
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Hahahaha!
Young people take things too seriously, if you ask me. . .
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Knew you’d like that one 😉
Yes, they do. It’s so much fun for us, though!
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I was definitely much older when I was young . . .
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Funny how that works…
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Grrr… video not available in my country… but I can find it anyhow!
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Oh . . My Back Pages
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LOL
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Fucking YouTube . . . lol
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Don’t get me started…
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Hey, I love them and I hate them . . sometimes within the same music searches!
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Haha. Same
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****Cue the jingle music*****
“First world proooblemmms!”
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I’m a natural contrarian. I recall that after changing careers, I knew I had arrived when I disagreed with the majority of people in the room … and I was at a professional meeting of peers. While I enjoyed the movie, #16 made me wince. As reading this post I kept thinking – Marc has carried this angst for the movie since 1994? Then again, I’ve got the feeling this could simply be a contrarian’s move to get someone’s goat.
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Cincy,
It’s a condition that rears its ugly head from time to time. As it did for me recent;y when I started a fire, quite unwittingly I may add.
And here’s the thing, I never said it wasn’t a good movie! But if I didn’t believe it was a great movie . . well, that was my downfall.
So in the days since, I’ve been asking peeps about their take on the flick. For umm . . shits and giggles.
There are certain topics to which I will entertain a ‘debate post’, but these are always debates to which I dig playing the foil. Because it’s always a topic to which I can easily sit on either side of the fence.
But to this one, I wouldn’t be able to do a debate post, because I am sorry but Gump is good. Not great.
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Kind of like the halls of fame … They are for the great but not the good.
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Yes! Exactly! Its the Hall of Fame people . . not the Hall of Good or even Very Good!
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According to Canton, Bengals have had only one great player in their 50 years.
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Welp, at least they never had Johnny Manziel. 🙂
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Here’s another… uglier than Russell Crowe near a landline…
Forrest Gump is AWFUL! I stand with you, my friend.
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T Coolness,
AWFUL? You got in the passing lane and whoosh! You took it all the way to awful and to this I am appreciative. Because if saying Gump ain’t great gets me guff, you saying it’s awful is the kind of company I needs to be keeping! lol.
Muchas gracias!
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De nada. I sooooo have your back on this one. A.W.F.U.L.
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But the soundtrack you dig, right?
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Affirmative.
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They could have just released the soundtrack and I’d have been cool with it.
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You know what I love? I love that you were compelled to write about the nonsense in life. Forrest Vs. Fargo? Who wins? Who cares? It’s all personal preference.
And yet, using the conflict to put forth the reasons for the bitter taste in your mouth, is enlightening. Yes, our country was in an odd place. Yes, the movie marketing machine roared, if not bulldozed straight out of Hollywood pushed us into theaters and then to Blockbuster when the VHS/ DVD came out. Because remember when we believed we needed to see movies again? Back in the day. Now we just sit on our couch with bags of Skinnny Pop, craft beer or wine and binge watch Netflix and more. Maybe the 90s weren’t so bad?
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This is so true, Karen. And yet, once in a while, i get the urge to go into a movie theatre to watch a movie on the big screen and where I get to get annoyed at the candy/popcorn “rustlers” and open-mouth chewers and slurpers and effing phone texters who think they are not disturbing anyone but where the light of their phone is set at the brightest so you can’t help but look towards it…
Yanno what? Let’s go to the drive-in instead…
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I was the Glen Art to see The Post a few months ago. And I was talking to the fellow who was working the concessions. I said I think I’ll watch Phantom Thread at home, and he said no you should watch it here. And I asked why? Because there are no interruptions. And he is right. I typically go the cheap theaters, because I’m too poor for the flashy places, but I love the experience. You go to a movie to check out, and that you do!
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Hey, I’m with you. I go on cheapie Tuesday – movies are $6.
I’m on a total splurge next Thursday with a gf – but we do dinner first then movie, I don’t do the popcorn thing. Ridonkulous how much they charge when we know it costs them pennies per. I just can’t.
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You gotta have the popcorn though. With extra butter since it’s so good for you!
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Meh.. I don’t mind not having it…
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Oh, don’t be a junk food fuss . . .:)
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Oh no! Not moi! Just don’t mind if I don’t have any… 😉
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Bwahahaha!
No, I can see your point. When you can paint duck onto a platter the way you do, I wouldn’t waste my time with movie theater popcorn either.
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Hahaha… still… I do love me some popcorn sometimes.
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“Joe’s Revenge” prompt challenge post complete! Will post tomorrow morning. Why NOT on the Sabbath, am I right?
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Hmmmm…. damn. The pressure you guys give…
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You love it! 😉
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And you can read what I’ve done in a few minutes… 😛
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It’s about dang time I put my heels up today (night). Gonna dig in shortly . . . 🙂
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Yay
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This be true, Irish Mafia!
I do miss so many things about the 90’s, not the least of which is you could still listen to AM radio and get your fill of 80’s music, which was THE decade for tunes in my humble opinion.
We rented movies, we bought movies . . . a shit ton of the buggers too! Going to Blockbuster on a Friday night when I was a new father enlisted with third shift diaper duty is a favorite memory. I would double down on flicks, knowing I would be early in my returns.
You nailed it with the Skinny Pop! I love that stuff!
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Oh man… now you’ve brought me down memory lane!
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Good times . . .
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I was gaga over the special effects. Senise with no legs, Forest with Nixon.Other than that I thought Forrest was a pain. Now Rosanne is another pain entirely. Who can like a loud-mouthed, ignoramus like that character? Oops.
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I had fun with this, seeing as how it’s really a lot of tongue and cheek. And Roseanne was in Adamstown, Pa last year and stopped in a shop I sell antiques in! She was very quiet, and really a fine looking woman, I had no idea!
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That is why I can’t understand her character.
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I never warmed up to the show, but hey . , at least when they came back, they didn’t go to cable or some online service. They went right back to where it all began. So there’s that . . . 🙂
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You are one of the most positive souls on the planet. Nice way to look at it. 🙂
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Haha! No, but I do try to give benefit to the doubt. And when that doesn’t work, I just get the heck outta Dodge! lol
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🙂
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Gosh I thought I was the only one who thought Forrest Gump was overrated. To be honest, I completely agree with your assessment (and love your way of describing it: “a simple piece of American pie for the hungry masses”- brilliant!) haha and I’ve gotta admit I’ve only seen clips from Roseanne, so I’ll admit to not knowing much about it, but I have no idea how on earth it’s a thing?!
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Forrest Gump is a quote monster. I know people who riff on the stuff, and I got nothing! lol.
As for Roseanne, it’s a blue collar appeal. And the peeps who like it, really love it. So if it makes peeps happy because its relatable, more power to ’em I guess.
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hehe I relate!
Oh well, fair enough, I guess.
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Truth be told, I’m lousy with quotes, even to flicks I’ve watched many times.
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hehe totally understand and relate!
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Coolness!
And I won’t bring up the Newcastle United score . . . oops!
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hehe *ouch* 😉
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Sooner or later it was going to happen, right?
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hehehe it happens all too frequently for arsenal, unfortunately 😉
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The appeal, for me, is that they have a Miami Dolphins vibe. And while I may not be as passionately acquainted with the club as you are, I definitely get that vibe.
Problem is, it only makes me dig them more!
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hehe completely get that! How are the dolphins doing?
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Well the good news is the Dolphins haven’t lost a game! Of course, that’s because it’s the off season, lol. Maybe they SHOULD take up soccer, because they’re not much good with their hands as it is.
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hahahaha! That’s hilarious- I’m so glad I decided to support such a great team 😉
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OG,
With the Dolphins, it’s a ground floor opportunity kinda deal. If you’re afraid of heights, this is the team for you!
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hahahaha perfect- I have terrible acrophobia! 😂😂
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Welcome then!
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Reblogged this on From 1 Blogger 2 Another.
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Thank you once again sir!
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🙂
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The sound track is probably better than the actual movie. 😊 Opine away, friend, it’s always good to expand one’s horizons even if it’s different from the masses.
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I enjoy chatting up Gump, and maybe some of it has to do with the fact that I am in the minority on this. Which is great, since I am by no means saying I’m right. I just like to hear different people’s takes on this one.
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Another great post, my friend. I do however have a confession… Forrest Gump is among my favorites for movies. I know, I know… but it is.
Haha.
Honestly though, great post. Love your stuff. Do you mind if I share this to my other social media?
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Dude,
I’m so happy someone has checked in with a Pro Gump! If we were hanging out, we’d have a great debate about this one over a few cold ones. I call that a win/win.
Share it away! I love that! And thank you, much.
Peace
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A win/win, indeed.
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